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mlemaudit a écrit : ↑mer. sept. 06, 2023 2:15 pm Ca me semble pertinent - la feuille de perso est vraiment mal faite (Le bouquin de règle est trés confus aussi et pas super bien traduit non plus il me semble. Les tournures de phrases sont pas naturelles et j'ai la version révisée)

Merci en tout cas

Lotin a écrit : ↑jeu. sept. 21, 2023 9:13 am Je suis en pleine préparation et lecture pour relancer une campagne Warhammer. Est-ce que des pratiquants de la V4 ont testé la règle optionnelle de Up in Arms pour gérer les avantages ? Auriez-vous un retour sur cet usage ? Elle me semble diablement sexy pour réduire un peu cette usine à gaz (pour moi).

NapalmGlop a écrit : ↑jeu. sept. 21, 2023 10:40 am

Lotin a écrit : ↑jeu. sept. 21, 2023 9:13 am Je suis en pleine préparation et lecture pour relancer une campagne Warhammer. Est-ce que des pratiquants de la V4 ont testé la règle optionnelle de Up in Arms pour gérer les avantages ? Auriez-vous un retour sur cet usage ? Elle me semble diablement sexy pour réduire un peu cette usine à gaz (pour moi).

Tu parles du pool d'avantages partagé par les joueurs?

Lotin a écrit : ↑jeu. sept. 21, 2023 10:45 am  
Tout à fait !

Zoltan83 a écrit : ↑jeu. sept. 21, 2023 10:35 pm J'ai pratiqué les deux. Et je préfère l'avantage de groupe à celui individuel.
Je n'ai pas le problème de fluidité évoquer plus haut car dans notre groupe, la discussion pour quand les utiliser est assez rapide. Donc on ne perd pas de temps là-dessus.

The Shield Quality
The Shield Quality has been adjusted to make it easier to
use them in melee combat.
Shield (Rating): Any time you Oppose an attack you
benefit from additional AP equal to the Shield Rating. If
your weapon has a Shield Rating of 2 or higher you may
also use your shield to Oppose incoming missile shots in
your line of sight.
This means that you may use a melee weapon in your
primary hand to oppose an opponent’s melee attack at
no penalty and gain the AP benefit of the shield in your
secondary hand even though you did not specifically use
the shield to oppose the attack.
Example: Uri is surprised by some Goblins who charge into
close combat with him. He gains the Surprised Condition, so
in the first round of combat his shield provides no benefit. In
the next turn he is no longer surprised and his shield provides
2 AP on top of any armour he wears.
Uri sees off the immediate threat, but a Goblin shoots at him
from a range of 50 yds. Uri could not normally oppose this
attack, but because he is equipped with a shield he may use that
shield to oppose it. Because it is in his secondary hand he suffers
a penalty of -20 (as per the Two-Weapon Fighting rules in
WFRP page 163) or no penalty if he uses Melee (Parry) (see
WFRP page 296) lastly because it has the Defensive Quality
Uri benefits from +1 SL.

Unbalanced: The weight of some weapons is concentrated
at the head, making them inefficient for parrying. When
this weapon is used to oppose an incoming attack, it
suffers a –1 SL penalty to the attack.

Axe 10/– 1 Common Average +SB+4 Hack, Unbalanced
Ballock Knife 16/– 0 Scarce Very Short +SB+1 Impale*, Penetrating, Precise *
Club 4/– 0 Common Average +SB+4 Undamaging, Unbalanced
Dagger 16/– 0 Common Very Short +SB+2 –
Improvised Weapon N/A Varies N/A Varies +SB+1 Undamaging, Unbalanced

Rosco a écrit : ↑ven. sept. 22, 2023 3:31 pm le bouclier aussi à changé dans up in arms
@Lotin 

The Shield Quality
The Shield Quality has been adjusted to make it easier to
use them in melee combat.
Shield (Rating): Any time you Oppose an attack you
benefit from additional AP equal to the Shield Rating. If
your weapon has a Shield Rating of 2 or higher you may
also use your shield to Oppose incoming missile shots in
your line of sight.
This means that you may use a melee weapon in your
primary hand to oppose an opponent’s melee attack at
no penalty and gain the AP benefit of the shield in your
secondary hand even though you did not specifically use
the shield to oppose the attack.
Example: Uri is surprised by some Goblins who charge into
close combat with him. He gains the Surprised Condition, so
in the first round of combat his shield provides no benefit. In
the next turn he is no longer surprised and his shield provides
2 AP on top of any armour he wears.
Uri sees off the immediate threat, but a Goblin shoots at him
from a range of 50 yds. Uri could not normally oppose this
attack, but because he is equipped with a shield he may use that
shield to oppose it. Because it is in his secondary hand he suffers
a penalty of -20 (as per the Two-Weapon Fighting rules in
WFRP page 163) or no penalty if he uses Melee (Parry) (see
WFRP page 296) lastly because it has the Defensive Quality
Uri benefits from +1 SL.

si non surpris tu ganes de l'armure
si tu pares au bouclier +1sl
ils ont rajouté en plus

Unbalanced: The weight of some weapons is concentrated
at the head, making them inefficient for parrying. When
this weapon is used to oppose an incoming attack, it
suffers a –1 SL penalty to the attack.

pour la plupart des armes à une main

Axe 10/– 1 Common Average +SB+4 Hack, Unbalanced
Ballock Knife 16/– 0 Scarce Very Short +SB+1 Impale*, Penetrating, Precise *
Club 4/– 0 Common Average +SB+4 Undamaging, Unbalanced
Dagger 16/– 0 Common Very Short +SB+2 –
Improvised Weapon N/A Varies N/A Varies +SB+1 Undamaging, Unbalanced

donc un combatant hahce + bouclier, pares à -1 sl avec sa hache et beneficie de l'armure, et si il pares au bouclier , parades à -20 en armes de base ou normale en armes de parades avec armure et + 1sl